Anthropologist Tidiane N’Diaye on the Arab-Muslim slave trade, African civilizations, and African development
Anthropologist Tidiane
N’Diaye on the Arab-Muslim slave trade, the history of African civilizations,
and contemporary African development
This
post is the transcript of an interview that appeared originally on Stream
Africa in 2014.
Tidiane N’Diaye is a
Franco-Senegalese anthropologist, economist and writer. He is the author of a
number of publications on the history of Black Africa and the African diaspora.
He also authored numerous economic studies at the Institut national de la statistique et des études économiques on
the French overseas departments (Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique).
N’Diaye’s studies on the
Arab slave trade (Le génocide voilé,
“The veiled Genocide,” Étude de la traite
négrière arabo-musulmane, “Study of the Arab-Muslim Negro Slave Trade”)
were nominated for the Prix Renaudot
in 2008. These books are all the more important to learn from now that slaves are being sold again in Libya and many "guest workers" from Asian and African nations are being exploited in foreign lands, without the rights that should be accorded to citizens or to immigrants with a pathway to citizenship.
The following is a
transcript of a Stream Africa
interview with Prof. N’Diaye, published in 2014. The transcript seemed to be a
rough French-to-English translation that needed some editing and further
interpretation. It has been edited here to conform with the standard American
English used in American publications, with the best effort made to preserve
the apparent meaning. See the original here.
Why
did you decide to study anthropology?
I am originally a
statistical economist by training. I had a career as a research officer at INSEE (Institut national de la statistique et des
études économiques), with teaching duties in economics. I was the Director
of Research in large schools such as Sup de Co [Sup de Co La Rochelle, a
business school]. But one day in 1985, a mutual friend, Dr. Khadi M’Baye of the
World Health Organization, personally handed to me a book by the Senegalese
historian and anthropologist, Cheikh Anta Diop. It was Civilization or Barbarism dedicated to me with great encouragement.
He thought he was
addressing a brilliant young economist at the time (in his own words), but
without knowing it, he had unwittingly plunged my heart into the study of
social science (the science of mankind). After reading this book and all the
others of his pioneering anthropological studies of Black African
civilizations, I had accidentally developed a passion for the subject. I
decided to do a PhD in anthropology on the formation of the Zulu empire in the
nineteenth century.
Despite his advanced age,
Professor Claude Lévi-Strauss, with affection and honor led me to an original
approach to modern anthropology. After the publication of this work by
L’Harmattan, under the title The Empire
of Shaka Zulu in the “African Studies” collection, I decided to continue.
It is when we live abroad
that we are increasingly faced with the ignorance of people about the
invaluable contributions of Black African civilizations in universal heritage;
and it is in this reality that I draw the main motivation for my work.
From
your research and numerous studies, can you give us some important points to
remember concerning the Arab-Muslim slave trade?
An important point at the
outset: I often use the term of “Arab-Muslim” in my research. This approach
doesn’t in any case only represent the Muslim countries as a single entity or a
specific homogeneous historical category. It is not an “essentialist” view of
history, reducing people to their religion or their culture. The fact is simply
that the slavers who were involved in this tragedy were not exclusively Arab.
They were also from the Maghreb (North Africa), Turkey (the Ottoman Empire),
Iranians (Persians) and even Asians, since the king of Bengal had 8,000 African
slaves in the mid-fifteenth century. The only common point between all these
slave peoples was the Muslim religion. Even though religion was not the main
cause of the slave trade, the commandment to enslave all non-Muslims was never
renounced. That being said, as everyone knows, the transatlantic slave trade is
well known to us and has been widely discussed for decades. Studies of the
subject are legion. But at the same time, many authors—mainly African—want to
ignore the other side of the slave trade—the Arab-Muslim trade that lasted more
than 13 centuries—by restricting the scope of their research on the misfortunes
of the African continent to only the crimes of Western nations. And even today,
many laymen believe reflexively that there was only the trans-Atlantic slave trade,
organized from Europe and the Americas, which led to the death or deportation of
millions of Africans in the New World. Because in the name of a certain
religious solidarity (Africa having become a Muslim majority), or ideological
view, Africans and Arab-Muslims would like to see their responsibilities
forever covered with a veil of forgetfulness.
This virtual pact has been
sealed, and it can be put on the back of the West, as a cement to achieve the
fusion of Arab and Black African populations, who have long been “victims in
solidarity” of Western colonialism. Even when a few researchers dare to tackle
the crimes of Arab Muslims, it is to undervalue their importance while “over-sizing”
those of the “evil white slavers and colonialists” etc. That is why through Veiled Genocide my task was to lift the
veil on this painful chapter in the history of African peoples after the
arrival of Arabs. I do this to remind people that misery, poverty, demographic
stagnation, and the long delays in the current development of the Black continent
are due not to the the Triangular Trade, as many people may believe. It is true
that there are no degrees of horror or a monopoly on cruelty. However, it can
be argued without risk of error, that the slave trade and warlike expeditions conducted
by Arab-Muslims against Black Africa throughout the centuries were far more
devastating than the trans-Atlantic slave trade. The Islamization of many Black
African peoples and all that it has generated, like the jihads, was the source
of countless implosions. As history shows, the Arab-Muslims are at the origin
of this calamity and have practiced it in full. The trans-Atlantic puncture
lasted from 1660 to about 1790, but Arab-Muslims raided black people from the
seventh to the twentieth century. From the seventh to the sixteenth century,
for nearly a thousand years, they were the only ones to practice this miserable
trade, deporting nearly 10 million Africans before the Europeans came on the
scene. In this tragedy of Black people, the trans-Atlantic slave trade deported
between 9.6 and 11 million Africans, and their 70 million descendants today
inhabit the Americas from the USA to Brazil and throughout the islands of the
Caribbean. In contrast, in the slavery practiced by the Muslim Arabs, concerning
17 million individuals, hardly any left offspring because of the widespread use
of castration to prevent them from leaving descendants. According to the great
Arab scholar, Ibn Khaldun, who was listened to and respected: “Blacks belong to
the people of a bestial character. They are cannibals and they are closer to being
animals. Blacks are the only people suited to slavery due to a lower degree of
humanity.” My view of history is therefore to deal with proven facts, without
complacency or a militant approach that forces me to conform to a notion of “solidarity”
or religious tolerance.
Why
has no American publisher yet acquired the translation rights to your book The
Veiled Genocide?
Despite the translation of
many of my books into several languages, it seems that American publishers have
little interest in what happens in the Francophone world. While The Veiled Genocide on the Arab-Muslim
slave trade (published by Gallimard, as was most of my works) was widely reviewed
by newspapers, magazines and even on American English sites, no publisher from
the USA has acquired the rights for its translation and distribution. With the
rise of Islamization in the world, many African Americans have been converted,
choosing this religion as a refuge. Many believe that the oppressors of Blacks,
Christians, have always been white. Not only is this view a false understanding
of the history of black people, it also hides the role played by the Muslim
Arabs in the martyrdom of Africans during the Islamization of Africa. I
sincerely wish that one day, an American publisher, wishing to not oppose or
exclude this history, will publish an English translation of Veiled Genocide so that our African
American brothers and sisters in the diaspora actually become aware of the
reality.
As
an anthropologist, what message do you send to all Africans to encourage us to
perpetuate our culture?
In my fight for the
development of Black African civilizations, I think this paradigm tends to
highlight the invaluable contributions of our African Negro cultures to universal
heritage, on the basis that the inner nerve of a civilization is the
preservation of its cultural heritage in maintaining a number of fundamental
features of morals and social organization. But since the end of the Roman
Empire, as aptly noted by Paul Valery, civilizations are mortal and those of
Africa have not escaped this truth.
For what concerns us Black
people, the reality of our present condition often leads us to look for
something in the past that can give us encouragement. Accordingly, one can
easily understand the approach of our seniors—Ceikh Anta Diop, Theophile
Obenga, and others. This is because they lived and worked in an era when our
civilizations were besieged and they were virtually excluded from being
considered as contributers to progress or the betterment of mankind. With
hindsight, we can see that these great pioneers were the equals of their
opponents, able to raise the profile of African heritage.
The difference today is
that we have the comfort of working in a postcolonial world and we live in economic
and cultural interdependence, where the movement of people, ideas, and
discoveries in real time prevents falsification of the history of others. Thus,
we no longer need to behave as if we are fighting against someone for
recognition, or against any oppressors who seek to marginalize Africans. It is
nowadays widely accepted that Africa, the cradle of humanity, is a
paleontological and anthropological reality. Also in the early millennia of
history—especially during the Paleolithic and Neolithic periods—the role played
by Africa was first class. Many people of the continent—although they used only
ancient oral media—had established political, economic, and culturally
elaborate traditions. In Africa prestigious civilizations such as Greater
Zimbabwe flourished. It was the second major African civilization after the
Egyptians, particularly in terms of architecture. Many European scientists
refused to believe that such an advanced civilization could be the work of Black
African populations. All the speculation about its origins was eventually be
swept away by the first archaeologists who were guided only by a scientific
approach. It has been known and recognized by all that this civilization’s
Pharaonic buildings were built by an African people. Shona architecture, dating
back to 400 BCE, shows clearly that there was, among Black people, the
equivalent of astronomers. The buildings have precise astronomical orientation.
There were gifted architects, construction engineers and stone civil
engineering, mathematicians, builders and planners.
Other wonders are also the
civilizations of the 25th dynasty of Egypt, Black pharaohs of Nubia, Ethiopia,
Ghana, Mali. Those of Nok, Ikbo Ukwo, Ife—north of present-day Nigeria—also
delivered, for more than a millennium, masterpieces among the most unusual and
stunning known to date, furnishing the greatest museums and still sought by the
most discerning collectors worldwide. This is an invaluable contribution to
Africa’s historic heritage. With this belated recognition, we are now far from
the outrageous extravagance of Hegel who wanted the peoples of Black Africa to
be spectators attending the march of history. Through my work, the goal is to
bring current and future generations of Africa and its diaspora to reclaim
their prestigious history in order to better evolve, without any resentment
within the human family.
“In
the most basic view of economics, survival of a society can be provided by
three main sources, namely: industry and agriculture, and commerce to
distribute the products of the first two.” With this quote in mind, do you
think that Africa is on the path of improvement? How do you think we can
improve our society?
Improvement should be based
on the a premise that many seem to forget: The abolition of slavery in the
Americas and other places was done for economic reasons, not for to moral
reasons. In the U.S., this still goes unsaid.
For the islands of the Caribbean, there were several factors that weakened the
plantations: the new spread of the cultivation of the sugar beet in Europe, the
shortage of slave labor, and the introduction of competition from Brazil and the
Dutch colonies. These ruined the Caribbean economy. This same competition led
to the overproduction of sugar with negative effects on the market when prices
were beginning a steep decline. The slave system was increasingly inefficient
and unproductive, as noted by the economist Adam Smith. France and England had
been able to anticipate these changes. In the early nineteenth century, the
Industrial Revolution took off. This made a new era, with its inefficient means
of production, emerge at the expense of agriculture. Europe was increasingly
challenged by Russia and the USA. English businessmen had therefore taken the lead
by reinvesting a significant portion of the huge profits made off slavery into
the financing of industries, to support the
new stage of capitalism.
However, the “new economy”
born of the Industrial Revolution, after the abolition of slavery, needed another
type of labor—raw materials and markets. All the resources essential to
European economies, unfortunately, were still in Africa. Because of the
enormous human factor in the undertaking, for this new phase of capitalism, colonial
conquest was needed to organize the exploitation of the wealth of the Black
continent. Thus, the richness of its soil and subsoil have always been the bane
of Africa. It has been a victim of predators of all kinds.
However, if such a reality
still exists today (see the Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic
etc.), some leaders have begun to learn how to manage, especially since the
Chinese offensive in the global economic game, placing Africa as the
centerpiece because of its raw materials. Since the Chinese came to Africa with
their checkbook diplomacy, concrete results have become visible. Across the
continent, businessmen and Chinese engineers have rebuilt and refurbished
infrastructure long neglected, as they are vital for sustainable economic
development. The active presence of the Chinese on the continent has also
revived competition and subsequently improved the terms of trade by offering
better pay for export products.
Today alongside
“traditional” partners such as France, Britain, the United States and Japan,
this rivalry has attracted new actors, and they are described as “emerging,”
although some have already achieved the conventional growth threshold. India,
South Korea, and Brazil are distinguished by the size of their investments on
the continent. Turkey is also becoming more prevalent, as well as Iran, Qatar,
and Dubai. With the commitment of the Chinese, many African countries have
received aid and massive investment. They were granted debt relief or
preferential trade tariffs. In places poor in natural resources, such as Mali,
Burkina Faso, Benin, and Ghana, Chinese investments have helped revive some
very large deficits and local businesses. Sino-African trade caused a
significant boost in the prices of several agricultural products (cotton, cocoa,
etc.), which are often the only source of income for local people. The austere
IMF admits that the Chinese presence in Africa is beneficial. Not only has China
contributed to the growth of national GDP, but its involvement also allowed
some states to cope with the last major financial crisis. European partners
would benefit too. If the China-Africa cooperation causes economic and
commercial growth, it may stabilize African populations. It would stop the
downward spiral of migration to Europe in general. However, Europe must
consider China as an equal partner. It must harmonize with its various
cooperating parties, both with European countries and other emerging countries
and the United States, in order to maximize the results of these synergies.
This is the only way for economic takeoff. And as you know, the economic
takeoff of a country or area leads to improvement in all other sectors—cultural,
political, environmental, etc. The time for Africa may have come…
END
Tidiane
N’Diaye, interviewed by Maimouna O. Gbor
for Stream Africa, March 27, 2014.
http://streamafrica.com/news/anthropologist-tidiane-ndiaye-give-us-important-points-concerning-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade/
English translation
revised by Dennis Riches, June 2018.
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